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ABC
Dec 9, 2012 7:00am EST
on the fiscal cliff. i will talk to the former cabinet secrary who says going over the fiscal cliff is better than getting a bad deal. >>> the auto industry is back. what it is doing right even in a soft economy. weill find out what is driving profitability. >>> and curtains up on the billion dollar w women who made the lion roar. my conversation with julie taymor. >> it's made 4 to $6 billion no no one complained about it. >> >> "wall street journal report" begins right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program "wall street journal report."" no now, maria bartiromo. >> here's a look at what is making news. some surprisgly good news about america's economy. the labor department says 146,000 new jobs were created in november. much better than economists' expectations. the unemployment rate drop theed 2/10 of a percent now at 7.7%. the best number since december of twachlt the labor department says superstorm sandy had little affect on those numbers. >>> the markets continue their familiar pattern of following the latest word or words or hopes on the fiscal cliff. no ma
CNBC
Dec 9, 2012 7:30pm EST
>>> the clock is running out on the fiscal cliff. i'll talk to the former cabinet secretary who says going over the cliff is better than getting a bad deal. >>> the auto industry is back. what it's doing right in a soft economy? we'll find out what's driving profitability. >>> curtain's up on the billion dollar woman who made the lion roar, julie taymor. >> we never had a complaint about it. >> "the wall street journal report" begins right now. now, maria bartiromo. >> here's a look at what's making news. some surprisingly good news about america's economy. the labor department says 146,000 new jobs were created in the month of november. much better than economist's expectations. the unemployment rate dropped two tenth of a% at 7.7%. the labor department also says superstorm sandy had little effect on those numbers. >>> the markets continued their familiar pattern of following the latest word or words or hopes on fiscal cliff. no major moves during the week but several times the market ran out of steam to the end of the trading session. the house of representatives left for a lo
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 4:00pm EST
low end of the day, down 63 points. more on the republicans' counterproposal on the fiscal cliff coming your way as we get under way with the second hour of the "closing bell" with maria bartiromo. i'll see you tomorrow. >>> hello, 4:00 on wall street. do you know where your money is? welcome back to "closing bell." i'm maria bartiromo on the floor of the new york stock exchange. happy monday to you. this market beginning the new month lower as the gop today puts out a counteroffer on the fiscal cliff. take a look at how we're finishing the day on the wall street. dow jones under water with decline about 60 point. 12,966. last trade on the index. nasdaq gave up some ground today, to the tune of eight points finishing at 3002 on the session. and the s&p 500 down 6.70 points at 1409. >>> december a historically good month for the markets. the s&p has risen 8 of the past 1 years in the final month of yeert. with fears of the looming fiscal cliff, can the trend continue? we're bringing in mike from yahoo! finance and cnbc and yahoo! have a business alliance to share and co-produce editorial
FOX
Dec 7, 2012 5:00am EST
because of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the fact that we're short on money but traditionally what this pountry has done was treat a from the storm ravaged statts believv the obama pdministration will propose roughly 50 billion ddllars in reliif... far hort of whatt (reporter: "is here that kind of money lying around?") of money lying around. it's &psuch a complex time ight now ww're deeling witt a host of fiscal issues, we're tryyng to preveet our country from going off the fiscal cliff." senator republican colleaaues would &plike to seeebudget cuts....or the massive storm clean-up. preporter: "without offsets ii it going to have trouble getting ppssed do you think in this current climate?") "i think it might, i think it might,,you can't predict that." the uncertain fate of thh relief money comes little more thhn a month afterrthat jaw-dropping pre-ellction image of christie and the president... shoulder to shoulder... a time when r. victims... quickly. "i wann you to cut ttrough red tape. i want you to ut through bureaucracy. here's no excuse for inaction at this point." the
CBS
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
hill about the fiscal cliff. tonight maryland's senator ben cardin joins me for some perspective from the other side of the river. senator, we're so glad to have you. >> my pleasure. >> we are in the midst of a stalemate, the president holding onto the idea of raising rates, the congress dominated by the mouse republicans saying we want to -- house republicans saying we want to close loopholes. where are you on this and why not have a combination of the two? >> it seems like both sides agree revenues have to be an important side of the equation and that's true. the easiest way to get revenue is through the rates. the senate passed this bill. it's in the house that allows tax relief for up to $250 to become law. that gives predictability and confidence and we can then have the revenue from the higher income to help deal with the fiscal cliff. the problem with closing loopholes is it's difficult to get anywhere near the type of revenue you can get from the rates on the higher income. >> fair enough. now if there is a compromise and you get the rates you want, don't you have to give
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 10:00pm EST
president's ultimatum driving us to the fiscal cliff? chris and senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes the guests here tonight. we begin with the dictator trying to maintain command of the country using chemical weapons as a deterrent. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest for us in this report. >> a regime helicopter captured in the skies in syria in a video unloads something, most likely, a defensive flair to detour antirebel runners, but that epitomizes the fear of which the serian people now live. rebel forces taking the flight to the assad regime inside the capital with a deadly explosion in the arab red crescent building outside the city. >> it's very clear the regime forces are being grounded down and that they are losing. >> in seeking to squash the uprising, he killed 40,000 people. president obama's top aids feel the fightg takes on a more gruesome character. >> we remain very concerned, very concern that as the opposition advances, i particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> sen
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
of dollars, but sharpton is in favor of raising taxes on the so-called wealthy maybe because he knows he will not pay the tax rates. fairness is among the other americans, not him. that's my two cents more. thars all for to be the. thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you can't catch us live. have a great night. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meeting with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and today, a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future. the pressure against the regime in and around damascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuing the sharpest warning yet. >> the president of the united states made it clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentagon elaborating on what the cons -- consequences would be, but having russia back them would be a determined outcome made by the promise of president obama in dealing with russia after winning a second term as he remarked to the russian president thinking they were off microphone as they met in south korea back in march. >> after my election, i have more flexibility. >> i understand. i just need permission -- lou: a full report on the disturbing turn of events in syria and the likely price of russian cooperation on syria. another middle east dictator, egyptian leader, morsi, with a concession to the opponents inviting them to hold talks on the crisis. is that enough to appease protesters who plan larger demonstrations tomorrow? we'll be talking with fox news middle east expert while ferris in washington institute fellow eric trager, and president obama back on the campaign trail continuing to successfully dress up his ultimatum on higher taxes as a republican decision rather than his own declaration. his staff organized a sit-down with a middle class family today in virginia claiming congress is to blame p they fail to yield to his ultimatum. why is the mainstream liberal media ignoring the reality it's the president's ultimatum driving us to the fiscal cliff? chris and senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes the guests here tonight. we begin with the dictator trying to maintain command of the country using chemical weapons as a deterrent. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest for us in this report. >> a regime helicopter captured in the skies in syria in a video unloads something, most likely, a defensive flair to detour antirebel runners, but that epitomizes the fear of which the serian people now live. rebel forces taking the flight to the assad regime inside the capital with a deadly explosion in the arab red crescent building outside the city. >> it's very clear the regime forces are being grounded down and that they are losing. >> in seeking to squash the uprising, he killed 40,000 people. president obama's top aids feel the fighting takes on a more gruesome character. >> we remain very concerned, very concern that as the opposition advances, in particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> senior u.s. officials confirmed to fox news that syria have fully mixed an unknown quantitity of the deadly nerve agent loading it on to breakable canisters, an aerosol form to be dropped from above. in dublin, secretary of state clinton met with the russian foreign minister whose regime steadfastly defended syrias, but that changed as the russian leader, close to putin said, quote, we have shared and do share the opinion that the existing government in syria has to carry out its function, but time shown this task is beyond its strength. >> it's now up to the russians to do everything possible and maximize their influence to ensure he does not use these weapons. >> it's also good to hear that some of the arab countries are trying to find a way to get them out. >> whether assad accepts the settlement that includes asylum in another country is far from clear. the deputy foreign minister said he's 100% sure that assad will never, ever leave syria. lou: thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, and joining us now, fox news middle east and terror analyst, fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. gentlemen, thank you for being here. beginning with you, just received word that the president smoke with morsi today talking about the number of deaths and concern about the result of the demonstrations. this is now a region that seems to be of behaving in ways in which this administration could not have anticipated or did not a year ago, six months ago. your thoughts on what's happening now? >> well, ii's happening right now is a balance of force, of demonstrations between the morsi regime, which is still trying to assert itself, the gun to influence the army, but did not complete the job, so the army is not completely under the hands of morsi, but, on the other hand, a dynamic opposition uniting against morsi and has been early on the responsible for the uprising in egypt against mubarak, replaced with the brotherhood, and bottom line, lou, is now the obama administration realizes that a partnership with the muslim brotherhood and morsi will not do. there has to be a triangle agreement. it's part of the politics. morsi cannot, even with the referendum on the 15th, five lines, strong opposition. lou: eric, do you concur? >> i don't, actually. i wish i shared his optimism, but it seems to me the administration is still really engaging morsi, not reading him the riot act. you had top morsi advisers in washington yesterday meeting with the nfc. no hard message sent at all. it's true that, you know, the protesters against morsi are uniting around it, but beyond that, very little brings them together. it's hard to see this protest creating a nonislammist movement more likely have to be forcing it through creating chaos. >> doesn't it seem now clear that this administration is supporting at least covertly, subtly, the islamist movement in the region, in fact rather than, as it seems, many want to believe, and trying to work against the radical islams, and those. >> this question is only asked in washington. everywhere else, go to paris, london, europe, the arab world, you read their press, and everybody knows, or everybody criticizes or accuses the obama administration as being a partner as pushing or helping the morsi government, and before that, the muslim brotherhood. it's a well-known reality. only in the hallways of the washington, political establishment, the question should be why? why did the obama administration from day one from tahrir square, rather than teaming with the youth, women, middle class, labor, and he sided with the muslim brotherhood, and that question basically, if we answer that question, we would know what would be the future of the policy in egypt. lou: eric, you cautioned against trusting morsi from the outset, and now, it appears, we are trying to persuade russia to end their support for assad. how effective do you think that ever will be? >> i think it will be very uneffective, and i'm afraid we waited way look on syria. 30,000 people have been killed. now reports of gas loaded on to bombs to be dropped # on them, and i think we really have to be very concerned that pursuing this diplomatic process gives the assad regime more time to do tremendous damage and destruction to his own people. lou: thank you, both, eric, doctor, thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. lou: more on the crisis in syria and egypt as we take it up with the a-team. the so-called fiscal cliff is really all about the obama ultimate may tum. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%. lou: president's ultimatum and his insistence on higher taxes may take us over the cliff. chris and steven next. the next scott walker? 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a billion shares lighter than yesterday, but above the average of 3.1 billion trading on the board today. apple rebounded from yesterday's worst date performance in four years, a gain of $8.45 today with the ceo saying apple will move imac computer production to the country in the new year. garmin stock higher to replace rr donly in the s&p 500, the stock moving up 5.75%. crude oil declining, down a third day in a row, looking at large supplies of gasoline and anemic demand. crude oil down 1.62 settling at 84.26. the yield continues to fall slipping to 1.58% today. confirmation tonight that the staffs of president obama and house speaker boehner resumed discussions as the two principles remain far from face-to-face negotiation apparently. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry has the latest. >> pulling on the heart strings like he's on the campaign trail, president obama visited a middle class family in virginia. >> a couple thousands dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> again, trying to frame the battle over the miscall cliff as being all about taxes with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%, but e remain optimistic we can get something done that are good for families like this one, and that's good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts while demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this is not about getting a handle on deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he has. >> white house aids reject the republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president's head is the only mechanism to get him to trim spending. >> you're just going to keep at the debt limit goes higher, you spend more money. you and congress, both. >> that's false. president signed into law a trillion dollars in discretionary cuts. the president has a specific proposal to achieve $600 billion in savings from entitlement programs like health care entitlement programs. >> jay compared republican pressure on the debt ceiling to a hostage taking. >> a profoundly bad idea that i think could not be more frightening for american businesses, and american workers. >> treasury secretary tim geithner may have frightened people yesterday saying the white house is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frightened republicans that the debate is not just about raising taxes on the rich. >> the truth is everybody needs to take more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of the deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. to go back to what bill clinton had. >> now, some liberals pushed the president to invoke the 14th amendment claiming that gives him the executive power to raise the debt limit himself, but jay said today the white house studied that proposition and decided the president does not have that executive power meaning we headed for another show down with congress over raising the debt ceiling. lou: the fiscal cliff and now a new ultimatum on the national debt ceiling. you suppose this is the last condition? >> it's going to be a wild couple of months, maybe everybody thought with the election over, there was going to be peace and figure all of this out, but i think we're just at the beginning of a long protractive battle, lou. lou: more on the stalemate of the fiscal cliff, the impasse, and tell us what you think about the so-called negotiations. vote in tonight's online poll. do you agree president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are actually the cause? make him responsible for driving us off the fiscal cliff? go to our to be page at facebook facebook.com/loudobbs. we'll have results at the end. chris and steven joining us here next to address that question and more. ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. 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[ malennouncer ] lease a 2013 e350 f $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. lou: house minority leader, pelosi going along with timothy geithner in saying it's just a fact we're going over the cliff if republicans do not agree to meet the president's ultimatum and raise taxes on the top 2%. >> the way i heard it, and the way i think it was not as a threat we'll go over if they don't, it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, then the cliff has to be dealt with. i don't see it if they don't do this, we do that. i saw it as a statement of fact. it's not a threat. it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, we go over the cliff. let's hope we have an agreement3 lou: ha-ha, fox news digital politics editor joining us as does steven hayes, weekly writer and fox news critterment steven, it looks like a condition preceding, and looks like it and sounds like it. how can it be the entire national media establishment seems to be blaming the republicans because the president issued an ultimatum? >> incredible, the president had red lines, saying he will not entertain the debt ceiling debate in the broader fiscal cliff discussion, clear where he was on taxes on the wealthy, a president who came out, and from the beginning, suggesting he's not moving off of his basic requirements, and republicans came a coup of different times making, at least, gestures towards a compromise. i think that suggests where the leverage really lies in this debate and negotiations. >> chris, seemssthe president's doing everything but taking snuff as he makes degrees and pronouncements, and the republicans for the life of me don't have a response, a message to meet and deal with the president. >> well, this is the starving time for the republicans. this is the bad season -- unhappy christmas for the republicans with the goal to get to the fiscal cliff, and get beyond that so that they can get to the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling is where they have leverage, advantage, and where the president is asking to increase the debt ceiling beyond the 2 #.2 trillion, these are american dollars, the $2.2 trillion that he was granted in borrowing power back in august. the republicans have to get to the point where that's the fulcrum for the debate. the president wants it out now and do it. he would like an unconditional increase and permanent, basically, increase in the debt ceiling now, in addition to the tax rate increase. the republicans have to survive this time as it relates to tax increases and get on to the ground of the debt ceiling. lou: way are the odds of survival if you have a senate minority leaders fill busting his own proposal on the floor of the senate, which some consider ill-considered. >> yeah, well, i mean, it it was a moment, wass't it? i mean, i don't think -- the republicans, clearly, are having a bad moment here. chris is right. you'll look back on this in six months, 12 months, or two years saying it's the low point, what republicans are hoping. it's not the case democrats are are organized and all sitting together on the same page too. some dissent object question is did the overall amount of raising taxes, that scares some democrats in the senate. you had democrats in the house repeatedly declare the opposition to any tinkering with entitlements, medicare, medicaid, social security, the real problem here, they say flat out, we're not going to do that. you have some differences with the democrats as well. >> no question. there's division of plenty on capital hill, b u this president is giving a clear impression that he doesn't care what anyone else thinks, democrat, republican, the senate, the house, his team, he'll plunge ahead over the cliff. am i missing something, chris? >> no, that's what he would like most of all. the thing that barack obama would like most of all, and i don't mean this to say that he doesn't love america or whatever else, but what i mean, is that the president is advantaged hugely on the other side of the fiscal cliff. if he can get republicans to join hands, jump, and be on the other side, all the tax rates go up issue and he's negotiating from an advantaged position. if he kept debt that, what he would hope is he can force republicans into app auto fade op the question of tax rates and have the party consume itself ahead of midterms with primary challenges before the 2014 so he's, right now, on the tax question looking at when, when. the only hope, the only ground the republicans can hope to stand on is the debt limit increase happening in february. lou: i hear chris saying just because you reek devastation as president of the united states on your economy, doesn't mean you don't love your country. [laughter] >> well said, very well said. >> that's exactly what he was intending to say. [laughter] >> look, i mean, it's an interesting position right now for the president. if you look at the president's argument, i mean, it is effect of what he's saying. we talked about this before, but, remember, the president argued twice raising taxes in time of economic struggle is bad for the economy. he was clear about this. he laid out the argument, and in some detail. you don't raise taxes when the economy's struggling. we were growing at a clip of 5.6% of gdp growth, and today, it's less than 2%, and he's making the saim argument. lou: thank you. great to have you here. more on the cliff, stalled negotiations, and, of course, ever-lasting hope straight ahead. syria and the fiscal cliff. they share two things in common. they are subjects of an obama ultimate may tum and -- ultimatum and the a-team tonight. >> three, two, one! 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[ male announcer ] humana. ♪ lou: a big surprise today in washington. senator jim demint of south carolina announcing he will resign his senate seat? january to take over the leadership of the think tank, the conservative think tank, the heritage foundation. earlier, the senator criticized boehner's proposal saying, quote, would destroy american jobs and not reduce the debt a penny. joining me to talk about the senator's resignation, his outlook on the cliff, and a host of other issues, delighted to be joined by south carolina lawmaker congressman trey, and congressman, great to have you with us. let me begin with the fiscal cliff. as i discussed with steven and our editor, chris, i have not heard a single republican say of the president's ultimatum, you know, that's the cause of the cliff, not the fact that we department yield to that ultimatum. why in the world aren't republicans talking about the president's ultimatum is -- as thee causal agent of any plunge over the fiscal cliff? >> well, lou, this are a few. jim jordan, demint, we don't have a megaphone or bblly pulpit. there's a band of conservatives in the house opposing the so-called debt deal last summer, but the president can command media wherever he goes, and whatever he does becomes news, and we're 435 little voices, and, frankly, the republican conference is not always singing off the same sheet of music. it is stunning to me we're going to go over a fiscal cliff or slope because of eight and a half days of revenue. that's what the president's asking for, eight and a half days worth of borrowing. the other thing to look at, lou, i think, is, you know, the president wants more revenue. he gets that by going over the cliff. he wants less defense spending. he gets that by going off the cliff, and he wants the republican brand damaged which he gets by going over the cliff. what incentive does he have to sit down and negotiate? none. lou: why is the republican party throwing over reagan omics, free enterprise, growth, individual freedom, smaller government, you know, and lower taxes over this? are you kidding me? the republican leadership is also incentivized just as well as the president as you know, congressman, and they will get twice -- get spending cuts, sequestering goes into effect. you're going to see, obviously, domestic and defense budgets cut, but you'll see a tax increase here, but the fact is you get nothing if you don't do the fiscal cliff. >> well, among my many limitation is the inability to read other people's minds. i don't know what spaker boehner's thinking, but i know what he tells us in conference and private. lou: you can speak freely here. >> well, spiker boehner believes and convinced me he's negotiating with himself. he's in the spot between, and let's be clear, john boehner's never voted for a tax increase in his entire career in the house so he's got his principles, and, on the other hand, we saw in november, bewere not successful coming to electioneering. we're going to be blamed. he wants to create the appearance of a willingness to sit down in talk in a broad way in entitlement reform, bending the spinning art, but the president won't engage it. it's give me my increase on the dreaded rich people, and and unlimited credit card with respect to the debt ceiling. can you imagine anything more absurd than us giving eman unlimited ability to raise the debt ceiling? he's got the unmitigated ability to ask for that. lou: congressman, i have the most profound respect. you got me to tears thinking about the 435 folks there on capital hill in the house who have little tiny megaphones and can't get their message out, but then i start desperately looking for the message, and i can't even find it as i seek it. the poor speaker of the house, inability to rise to the level of the bully pulpit, but the fact is i don't see the creativity, the energy, the passion for the philosophy of the republican party that engenders a powerful leadership response to a direct challenge to the fundamental values and tenants of the republican party, and i ask you, if you don't respond now, when would the republican party respond? >> i'll let you in on a secret, lou, because i like you. between us, and us only -- lou: is this where you start to tell me to go to hell? >> no, sir, i would never, never tell you that. we had a plan that many conservatives in the house worked on, and we were going to unvail it last week. we were going to unvail it only the exact same day that speaker boehner unvailed his response so we canned it, but there is a group of conservatives led by jim jordan, extraordinary person from ohio, and others. we do have a plan, and it's earlly like cup, cat, and balance, which i hasten to add would have averted the so-called super committee, and what we are talking about today, and it had bipartisan support. if we get the house leadership to reinvest and cut cap and balance, our plan last summer, but something about washington that if it's not a new idea, it's not a good requested. i'm sure there's a reluctance to go back to the old plan, but we did have something we were going to roll out this week, and i hope expwrim rolls it -- jim rolls it out next week. lou: looking forward to, thank you for letting us in on that. >> yes, sir, between us. lou: appreciate that. that's always our obligation here that we maintain. >> yes, sir. lou: jim demint shocking everybody. you interested in what might result? >> governor haley picking the person she can pick, and i'm happy to give her four good names, tim scott, nick, jeff duncan, and joe wilson would be extraordinary. she has access to much better political minds and more wisdom than i can afford her, but high on the guys i served with in the house. tough to replace gym demint no matter who she makes, but tim scott would be extraordinary, our state would be well served with any one of them. lou: congressman, that's why i'm sure you're on that list. congressman, thank you for being with us. economic thinker tomorrow author of the book on supply side economics, "wealth and poverty," the former cbo directer, douglas holtz-eakin, and up next tonight is the governor of michigan, is he going to be the next scott walker? details on his pro-worker push in michigan straight ahead. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gavisco®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. is what drives us to broadcast the world'biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's cars, nearlyndestructible laptop and the sustainable smart towns of the future. at panasonic, we're driven to make what matters most beer. just another way we're engineering a better world for you. lou: michigan legislature approve right to work legislation as hundreds showed up in michigan's capital protesting the measure. at least eight protesters arrested when a crowd of several hundred tries to push their way into the locked capitol building. police said it was already filled to capacity. republican governor rick snyder says he plans to sign the legislation calling it pro-worker. unions sharing a loss of union dues and other power attack governor snyder claiming he's putting the future of the state in the hands of big business. well, president obama adding to the ever-expanding list of titles, the latest coming from the chairman of the white house triball nation's conference. listen. >> the president loves basketball. he has an indian name. he knows what it's like to be poor, and he has not forgotten where he came from, and his theme song is "hail to the chief." [laughter] i think he definitely qualifies as the first american indian president. lou: and so he is declared. you may remember the president has been called the first gay, female, jewish, and asian president; however, without question, the title of america's first black president belongs to bight. -- bill clinton. up next, the obama ultimatum. tax the rich, or he'll take the country over the cliff. vote on the facebook page, do you agree president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are responsible for driving us over the cliff if that were to occur? we're talking with monica and angela, and lori. that's right, the a-team is next, and you don't want to miss them. lou: joining me now the a team, author of "what the bleep just happened" i love that title, radio talk show host monica crowley, and fox news political analyst, angela, and fox business network lori rothman. let's start with, if we may. this fiscal cliff. the republicans, as i mentioned, they are not mounting any kind of response to the charge by the administration. >> not surprising. the republicans have been known for as long time as the stupid party, they are a hot mess, they came out of this elect on the losing end, they have done nothing to try to regroup, this affects every american's life and pocketbook, they still can't get it together with a coherent message based on their core principals, economic freedom, and liberty, if you can't stand for those, and fight for them, they have no business being one of the two major political parties. >> monica is right, the republicans have allowed obama to ccntrol the debate, we have the morale high ground and our plan, obama in 2011 talking about tax reform said we can -- we don't have to raise tax rates, we can lower tax rates by capping deducts. he said that. lou: where is coordinated action and rhetoric from the party? i'm talking about from mayors to governors. >> we have been great with policy, but we've been clumsy courtroom communicators. >> boehner will let this backfire, we are higher taxing, no growth, no jobs, fake interest rates, in two years the republican party comes back stronger. >> we're seeing is political fear at its best, by being a washington dc insider i believe we can still get a deal, we have two proposal on the table. >> to get to your point, lou, from a conservative perspective, over in 6 was a national suicide. -- november 6 was a national suicide. a very thin find red line, that red line of republican party. if this party also commits suicide, this will be catastrophic. neil: we'll explore further why it is that republicans are having trouble with two areas, one winning elects and the other governing, we'll be back with the a-team, and we'll find out who is in charge on this assault on christmas among other questions, stay with us. lou: we're back with the a team. i talked with congressman goudie about the issue of taxes, all right senator tom coburn, and tom coal exceeded two tax hikes. >> it makes terrible sense, we're in a situation where the economy is not growing there are no jobs. we're facing an inflationary environment too. it is troubling, and it is just about politics, and ideology and pushing that forward no matter what without thinking -- >> what they are saying is that obama will have to give more, than entitlement cuts and spending cuts and republicans might have to acquiesce to tax hikes. lou: what is the republican party coming, monica used expression political party suicide, i don't know if that drastic but there is a defeatism i find astonishing. >> they hope to stan strong together in one message, we need a warrior that is why i'm delighted that jim demint is leaving and going to the heritage foundation, we don't have a clear champion on our issue, senator rubio does a great job but we need more out there jan the kuh cuban guy from florida. lou: i tell you, right now, i may be insulting a lot of people, but he is the most ex fisk communicate or -- effective communicate or the republican party has but he is not talking about the fiscal cliff. >> he said we have to did is not create new taxes but new tax payers, not make the richer poorer but the poorer richer. lou: that is a great slogan. >> you have to create policy, we're 25 days away from the fiscal cliff. >> to your original question about lack of energy and coing he had on the republican side, -- cohesion on the republican side. there is a real dispier i dispin this. not just among leadership but voting public people are burnt out. lou: what have they done? you have to work hard to get burned out. >> they have not done that. >> and tea party on the rise again. i think that stronger better republican party in two years from, last cycle. watch this whole fiscal cliff dial backfire. the -- the economy is going into recession in new year. lou: do you believe there is no way to avoid the fiscal cliff.
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happen to some of these stocks depending on the fiscal cliff. maybe things will not be so bad. on the other hand, now you have a stock in a completely separate sector. locate gap stores. all of a sudden end of last week, we saw this huge drop. the stock down about 15%. liz: what is it about gap at this point? >> >> it has been on such a great rally. i think there is some sentiment that because they did not announce any sort of forward diviiend that some of the investors are disappointed. with this thursday coming out with november retail sales data, people are thinking it is maybe not so good much like people are saying at apple that people are taking money off the table, that may be the same story with gap. liz: one story that may very relate is john woods the fact that gasoline went flat today has come down. down $0.10 over the past three weeks does this trend continue where is the next trade you cannot have high oil prices and expect people to pay high oil prices at the pump. in economy will just come right to a halt. i can see crude coming down to $82 really just hanging there. th
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. stock prices on wall street modestly higher today i did spite no sign of a deal on the fiscal cliff. take a look how we're settling out this thursday afternoon on wall street. the industrial average at 13,074. the s&p up just a fraction. will the markets get a boost from another cash infusion? ben pace says he's expecting the federal reserve to announce another round of stimulus at the meeting next week. is that what the markets really want right now? ben pace joins me along with chris heize and rick santelli. ben, let's talk fed policy. you think the fed announces qe-4 next week? >> i think it's the fact the twist operation is ending at the ends of the year, and they don't feel compelled to incrementally tighten that. that means it has to be replaced. that's the qe-4, the fact they'll continue to buy to continue to be just as easy as they've been since the september 16th qe- 3 announcement. >> so you think it's a continuation. what's the impact on the market, do you think? is it priced in? are we expecting that? what do you think? >> i think it's generally priced in. the thing that conce
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victory investment. apple didn't say where in the u.s. the line of mac computers would be built or how many jobs might be included. now the return of apple to u.s. manufacturing comes as shareholders have experienced a very rocky ride in the past few months. the stock is down 22% from its all-time high in september. suzanne pratt reports. rtses. >> reporter: a peak inside this manhattan apple store and it looks like everything is a-okay. plenty of customer, plenty of purchases. so why has the shine come off apple's shares? with a-- in a word, actually two, profit-taking. >> i think the biggest reason for the selling going back to when it was priced $700 in september is pure profit-taking. if you look from the beginning year to september, the stock was up 74%. so i think you had some natural profit-taking. >> reporter: but this isn't ode year-end selling by institutions looking to record nice numbers. this supposedly is fiscal cliff related selling as shareholders worries that capital gains tax rates will be higher next year. >> still, financial planner sharon appleman says selling stock solely for tax reasons isn't the best idea. >> i definitely think it's a legitimate concern and can be an opportunity. and i would say if somebody was interested in reducing a physician any-- position anyway, that can certainly be a great time to do it, you know, why pay higher taxes in a few months time when you can pay a lower tax now. >> reporter: and some analysts say, before unloading the shares, consider that fundamentals for apple haven't really changed. sure, revenue growth may slow and margins may contract, and there are worries the tech giant will have trouble fending off competition from increasingly popular android products. but, to some analysts, the shares look especially cheap today, especially considering their move south since the september high. >> we think the smart phone trend is still in the early to middle innings and is not in the late innings yet. so we think, to the extent that apple can maintain its share of the premium smart phone market, we think they'll do quite well. throw in ipad and how it's cannibalizing p.c.s, that's another great growth driver. >> reporter: it is worth noting that apple shares are still up more than 30% this year. even with more tax-related selling, it will be tough to take a big bite out of those profits. suzanne pratt, nbr, new york. >> susie: when it comes to new claims for jobless benefits, the effects of super storm sandy appear to be passing. new claims fell by 25,000 in the week ending december 1 to a lower than expected 370,000 requests. that's raising hopes about november's jobs data, which is due out tomorrow. grey, and christmas says u.s. employment firm challenger, grey, and christmas says u.s. companies announced 57,000 job cuts last month. separately, the number of planned job cuts rose 20% in november from october's levels. on wall street, the dow rose 39 points, but the nasdaq added 15, the s&p up nearly five. >> reporter: i'm erika miller in new york. coming up tonight, we'll talk to the c.e.o. of kitchen store sur la table and get his outlook for holiday sales. >> tom: lots of theatrics today, but few visible signs of progress in washington towards a fix for the fiscal cliff. the only hopeful sign is that republicans and democrats are talking privately again. but they haven't worked out any of the big issues, including what to do about the nation's debt limit. washington will hit its borrowing limit early next year, darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: sitting around the kitchen table with a middle class family in virginia, the president once again pressed for congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> if this family has a couple of thousand dollars less to spend, that translates into $200 billion of less consumer spending next year. and that's bad for businesses, large and small. >> reporter: behind the scenes, the two sides are talking again. but there was no progress in public. senators today fought over the debt limit, and ended up deadlocked over a bill to allow the president to automatically increase borrowing. >> he's shown what he is really after is unprecedented powers to spend taxpayer dollars without any limit at all. >> reporter: if the debt limit isn't raised, the country can't pay for the spending congress has already approved. and economists say the nation pays a high price for this kind of brinksmanship. >> business people aren't going to engage unless they have clarity with respect to this thing. >> reporter: but few insiders expect to find much clarity from washington in the coming weeks. darren gersh, nbr, washington. >> susie: investors will bengorn those fiscal cliff talks, and they will also be studying tomorrow's importa")jé:0@6cj& but josh feinman says the november numbers won't give an accurate picture of the labor market. he's chief economist at d.b. advisors. >> reporter: hi, josh, so you're talking about distortions in that report. tell us more. >> yes, hi, susie. i think that the hurricane sandy may distort the numbers. we've seen it in some of the other high frequency data in the last couple of weeks. keep in mind tomorrow's labor market report will report on a snapshot of the labor market taken in the middle of last month. and that's when the hurricane and its aftermath were having their effects. >> so the consensus numbers from a survey of economists, they're expecting american businesses added 110,000 jobs it to their payroll. the unemployment rate staying around 7.9%. does that sit right with you. is that what you are seeing? >> probably somewhere around that maybe a little less. one of the problems is it is hard to gauge exactly what the impact of the storm will have. we know it's transitory, it's hard to say exactly how much numerically it will sub tract. if the number comes in lower than that i think a lot of people will say oh, it was probably the effect of the hurricane and they'll wait until the following month to see what kind of a rebound we get. >> let's talk a little bit about what we can expect from the job market going forward. i don't know if you saw alan blinder's op ed piece in "the wall street journal." the former fed governor saying if we go over the fiscal cliff the unemployment rate will jump recession and customarily when are you in a recession the unemployment rate goes up 3 percentage points. does that sound right to you. and if that is the case what does this mean for consumers and for businesses? >> well, the seriously bad news. but i think what is important is not just whether we go over the cliff but how long we stay over there. i mean if it turns out that they need a couple more days to hammer out an accord i don't think that will have a big lasting effect. but if we go over the cliff and all those spending cuts and tax hikes go into effect and stay in effect for the whole year, then you would be talking about a very high likelihood of a recession and rising unemployment, substantial rise, we can quibble about how much. but it would be seriously bad news for consumers and businesses. >> as you know the federal reserve is going to be meeting next week on tuesday. certainly this is all going to be a topic around the table. is there a role for the federal reserve in this fiscal cliff back and forth? >> there really isn't a direct role they can play. this is fiscal policy. the fed does not make miss call policy t makes monetary policy. i think chairman bernanke and others have been very clear to stay out of the battle that has to be resolved by the congress and administration. look, i think at the end of accord to avert the most draconian aspects of the fiscal cliff. maybe the 11th, 12, 12th or 13th hour but i think they will reach that because i think they recognize that the consequence its of not doing so are so severe. >> but let's face t that even if there is a deal we're talking about an economy that is going to have to deal with people having higher taxes and dealing with spending cuts. what are you projecting for what are you projecting qlu ha, for economic growth and unemployment. >> sure. i think the economy going to be facing some fiscal drag from the federal side but if it is phased in slowly, it's not really use ter and abrupt i think it can handle it because i think the private sector is healing and i'm looking for improvement in growth for the second half of the year provided that we don't hit a landmine here on the fiscal side. >> all right, josh, thanks some of. we've been speaking with josh feinman of db advisor. >> tom: nearly a month and a half after super-storm sandy wreaked havoc along the new jersey shore, president obama met today with governor chris christie at the white house. the topic-- federal aid for storm recovery. the president is expected to ask congress for about $50 billion in additional emergency assistance. ruben ramirez is in seaside heights, new jersey, where business owners are striving to recover. ruben? >> reporter: thanks, tom. yes, nearly six weeks after super-storm sandy devastated this barrier island off the coast of new jersey, there's still a curfew in place. a lot of the traffic you see behind me is a lot of those longtime residents from the island and business owners who have been going back day in and day out, trying to recover and repair whatever's left. some of those business owners we had a chance to speak to today. they say they'll reopen come next summer. >> you've kbchb in business 33 years, have you seen this sort of devastation before. >> no, nothing like this. we-- that's the reason we stayed because they were explaining that there was going to be a terrible storm. but we, of this magnitude we had no idea. this is just like -- hard to believe. >> here we are almost six weeks after the storm hit. how soon until you get the business open and up and running again? >> there's a few problems. electrical and structural. but hopefully in the next maybe two months we might be able to get open again. but definitely we will be open for the summer season. >> reporter: tom, some of those small-business owners we spoke to say they didn't have flood insurance because they say the summer season is short here and the insurance is just too expensive. tom. >> tom: thanks, ruben, will you >> tom: thanks, ruben. we have more on how insurance companies manage risk when it comes to natural disasters.÷ learn about catastrophe modeling on our web site, nbr.com. just look for the "nbr-u" tab. >> susie: americans were feeling a little richer recently, thanks to gains in real estate and the stock market. the federal reserve said today that household net worth rose to nearly $65 trillion between july and september. that's up nearly $2 trillion from the previous quarter. net worth is total assets, like homes and stock portfolios, minus liabilities like mortgages and credit card debt. that wealth effect could make consumers feel more comfortable about shopping this holiday season. there are still 20 days before christmas and the rush is on. toys are always popular gift items. but there's one category that's expected to do even better and, no, it's not electronics. erika miller reports. ♪ ♪ó'2e÷ >> reporter: for many families, the holidays are all about the home. few retailers know that better than sur la table, a 104-store chain selling kitchenware and tabletop items. c.e.o. jack schwefel says sales are off to a strong start, and credits changing american values. >> i think americans are realizing the importance of the family meal, where people get together. no matter how crazy the day is, you can have that moment every day where it becomes the most important moment of the day, and you share it with the people you love the most. >> reporter: unlike many retailers, sur la table says it hasn't had a problem with showrooming this holiday season. that's when people come in to browse, but purchase cheaper versions online. part of the reason is that 40% of the store's products are exclusive. >> one of the things that we are most proud of is the fact that we still import more product from europe than we do from china. so you are talking about artisan product, product that has a story to it. that's special. you don't see that in retailing in america. >> reporter: stores like sur la table are expected to be one of the few bright spots in an otherwise lackluster holiday season for merchants. in fact, some experts think home goods will be hotter than toys this holiday season. ibm projects home goods will see the strongest sales growth this year, up over 6%. that's far more than toys and electronics. >> you may ask yourself, why home? we think home is up because of a lot of things-- things like the changing demographic of the home itself. there's a stat that says that 41% of those between 25 and 29 are living back at home. >> reporter: but there also a second reason. >> we think that this holiday people are buying what they need vs. what they want. >> reporter: which had me wondering what's on jack schwefel's wish list this holiday season. it wasn't this $5,500 coffee maker. >> there are some new knives that i'm actually pretty excited about, so probably those. they're cutting board material actually used in the handle of the knives. >> reporter: and there's no denying it will look good sur la table at this holiday season. erika miller, nbr, new york. >> a lot of people are buying new housewares, i love qooking. >> tom: i do i think is great the house goods category is seeing good growth it says there is confidence in the house market but let's face it, just because it's home goods doesn't mean it's cheap or inexpensive. 5500 dollar coffeemaker, some of these home appliance blernds can be $500. >> susie: if are you looking for discounts now there is green monday. we have had black friday, cybermonday, green monday is the second monday in december and that's when there is allots of discounts on-line. so it will be good for consumers. >> tom: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff but i think there is the holiday cliff which is that game of chicken between stores are they going have to discount closer to the holidays or are consumers going to spend the money that the stores are asking for right now. clearly another indication that stores perhaps maybe getting nervous now. >> susie: speak of green there was green on wall street today. >> tom: some buying on wall street. let's look at our market focus. better than expected data on first-time unemployment claims led to a choppy start for the s&p 500. after apple went positive in the 10:00 a.m. eastern time hour, so did the index. as tech stocks turned solidly higher, so did the market, finishing up a third of a percent. trading volume was moderate at 616 million shares on the big board; just over 1.7 billion on the nasdaq. the technology sector led the way, up eight tenths of a percent. the consumer discretionary sector added six tenths of a percent. the big tech names in the dow industrials weren't left out. intel had the biggest percentage gain of dow stocks. shares were up 1.6%. c.e.o. paul otellini said intel could manufacture semiconductors for other chipmakers "for the right types of products." so, queue the rumors about intel possibly making chips for apple. cisco systems moved up 1.4%. the move takes shares to their highest price since september. the top tech sector stock was akamai technologies. akamai helps speed up and manage online content and traffic. a new partnership with at&t led to today's rally. shares jumped 10% on heavy volume. analysts say the deal turns at&t from a competitor of akamai's to a customer, eliminating the rival from akamai's business. on the consumer side, starbucks was hot. first, the company said it will pay more taxes in britain in the next two years. yesterday, the company said it will open at least 1,500 new stores in the u.s. over the next five years. starbucks said the market is not saturated shares jumped 5.7%. volume tripled with the stock closing at five month highs. tax prep giant h&r block sits at a new 52-week high tonight. it lost less money than feared last quarter. h&r block has been cutting costs to focus on its core tax preparation business, especially digital tax prep. even satellite radio operator sirius/xm radio can't resist returning some of its cash to shareholders. it announced a one-time dividend of a nickel per share and a $2 billion stock buyback plan. sirius shares are consistently among the most actively traded issues on the nasdaq. volume was very heavy today, but the stock didn't move much, up just two cents. but there was a bigger stock move in liberty media capital. liberty media is the biggest shareholder of sirius and stands to get $160 million thanks to the special dividend. online social gaming company zynga has struggled to repeat the success of its farmville and words with friends games. it filed a preliminary application for a gaming license in nevada. don't look for zynga on the strip, at least not yet. the company wants to have customers bet real money on games like zynga poker. shares rallied 7.1% as volume doubled. test test test test test test test test test test is shutting down after clients pulled more than half a billion dollars from the fund. federal agents raided the connecticut firm two years ago as part of a nation-wide sweep that resulted in the arrest of one of the firm's former portfolio managers on insider trading charges. since then, diamondback's assets have dwindled to just over $1.5 billion, down from $5 billion. >> susie: our viewers have been waiting and he's finally here. paul kangas, nbr co-founding anchor. welcome home, it's so nice to you have back here. >> well, it is like home. and great to hear that i'm still welcome. >> susie: actually, speak of welcome. we got-- tom and i got so many viewer questions for you and comments saying it that they want to hear from the walter cronkite of financial news. a little bit of your wisdom in these confusing time, right, tom. >> narrator: absolutely there is some of going on in the market an you've seen some of market cycles. we have a lot to talk about but what we have to ask what do you make of the stock market today. >> it's sort of a stop and go affair. we get good news one day, better building permits and building news it and on that front. and inflation is down a little bit. and then the next day it's all countered by new uprisings in egypt and one thing or another. so the market tries to step higher and is countered by bad news. so stop and go all the way. >> tom: we got a great question from eric p edison. you saw the dow industrials move from 1,000 to over 10,000 in your ca reeferment and he asks will the dow jones see 8,000 or 18,000 first? >> well, there's not that much volatility but it could see both in the same year. but i intend, i'm actually a little on the bullish bias because corporations continue to make money and the american people are basically optimistic. and a lot of stocks are underpriced particularly blue chips even though the dow industrial average has more than doubled since 2009ment but there's a reason for that and that's good easternings, and that's good dividends. >> well, there's a lot of questions about if that is going to continue. and one of our viewers has a question for you about the fiscal cliff. you know all about the back and forth and drama about the fiscal cliff and delores wants your thoughts on where do you stand on this whole fiscal cliff, how will it play out. >> congress better get off its duff and do something. and i think that finally the pressure will be on us. but they always do it right to the last, you know, minute. but i think it's got to happen or they're going to be ousted from their hallowed political seats. >> tom: you could argue in the three years you've been away from the nbr anchor desk congress hasn't done a lot to address the fiscal situation. >> no it's just ridiculous. i mean these are our elected representatives and they have got to pay a little more attention to those that got them in the office. and they're arguing amongst themselves without much care about the people they represent. >> tom: a lot of those folks are retiree, we have a question from anita asking what is the investing or financial planning lesson paul use most during retirement? >> well, the number one is hope i can live my life to the last and still have enough capital to keep me going. and a lot of investors are running up against the same thing. they're running out of capital because yields are so low in the bond market, money markets are yielding practically nothing. so they have to chip into their base capital and that is hurt. so what i am doing is looking for blue-chip stocks with decent dividends. >> susie: a lot of people are wondering that in this climate what do you think is going to be the new investment opportunity available to all of us in 2013. s this's a question from fay. >> new investment opportunity. >> susie: what is your prediction. >> they'll come up with something new like etf exchange traded funds were relatively new a few years ago and now have gained such popularity t is almost staggering how much money has gone into etfs. >> tom: you mentioned how volatility could have the do you see 8,000 and 18,000, tweet on½kvyññ=) twitter asking individual investors are afraid of the markets. what needs to be done to gain their confidence? >> less regulation. i think that investors are afraid that they make an investment and something comes along,u.r the rules change from what got them into the investment in the first place. when you can't change, you know, canoes in the middle of a stream. >> susie: on this subject of investor confidence we do have a question from billy who says what is the greatest changes you've seen in the market today. you've had perspective three years being away from it on a day-to-day basis. what do you see is the biggest change? >> well, billy, i'll tell you that the computer is a wonderful thing but it's not the greatest thing for investing. and for investors who don't have a high speed company ability and have large box of stock at their arms length. i think that that is, it's taken away the idea that long-term, long-term investing is a good thing. i think that's one of the changes that i don't like. too much computer meddling. >> tom: well, paul, as much as the markets have changed, you haven't. it's great to see and hear from you again. susie, we have to say good night but i think it's only procedure to ask paul. >> i'm paul kangas, wishing all of you, the best of good-byes. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> join us anytime at nbr.com. there, you'll find full episodes of the program, complete show transcripts and all the market stats. also follow us on our facebook 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"closing bell" beginning right now. >>> hi, everybody. we enter the final stretch. welcome to "the closing bell." i'm maria bartiromo at the new york stock exchange. as we hurry toward the edges of the fiscal cliff, this market holding its breath. but holding up. >> yes, so far. technology one of the few bright spots with apple rebounding after that huge decline we saw yesterday. its worst day in four years. it's got everybody on wall street scratching their heads trying to figure out what the problem is with apple. at any rate, here's where we stands right now. sort of a meandering day for the markets. some economic data out this morning. the market responding to that. then a sideways move after that. the nasdaq benefitting from the rebound in technology yesterday. up 11.5 points on the thatnasda. the s&p is also trading higher. there it is. up 2.5 points on the s&p. >> meanwhile, bullish sentiment at an eight-month high right now. equity allocation is still at the lowest level of the year according to the american association of individual investors survey that was out this weekend. stock in a wait-and-see mode. totally understandable until these fiscal issues are resolved. >> but don't just sit on your hands. there is money to be made if you can find the opportunities. let's find out where they are in today's "closing bell" exchange. everybody is in the water here. scott is not there yet. jeff cox, the market is still waiting on the fiscal cliff. they're still sort of held accountable for that right now. yet, the investors' sentiment numbers are the highest in a while. what do you make of that? >> this isn't just the most hated stock market rally ever as some have suggested. this might be the most hated stock market ever. let's just talk about some quick numbers. market trading volume down 19% this year. we've seen $125 billion come out of equity based mutual funds. $300 billion go into bond funds. really, no appetite for getting into this market in terms of the volume. why? i think there's a general distrust of the markets. fiscal cliff and all of the other stuff. great story on the front page of wall street journal today talking about portfolio pumping. another example of investors thinking they're not getting a fair shake out of the stock market. >> larry, you call that complacency, don't you? >> that's right. i'm actually shocked that these investors appear to be asleep at the switch in light of the fiscal fiasco looming in less than a month. you would think investors saying their concerns would be running for the hills or at least buying portfolio protection to protect themselves against potential disaster. we see the vix very low. they're not taking the type of defensive, decisive action. if we get a downgrade and if this happens, it will be terrible for the market. that's what's potentially on the market, if we don't make a deal in washington. >> scott, let me ask you again how you want to allocate capital then in that environment. i know george young is with us again, joining the conversation. i want to ask you the same question. go ahead, scott. how are you investing right now? >> maria, i think the best way forward is the way it's worked since the bottom of the market in 2009. risk assets are where it's at. the fed is very supportive. the consumer is back and engaged. housing is getting better. the fiscal cliff is actually constructive from the standpoint it causes people to come together and compromise because going over the cliff while we may do it for a short time period is not beneficial to anybody. it hurts everybody. >> so risk assets being, what, technology? what does that mean, technology? >> not necessarily. we would stay with dividend payers. we would also dip our toe into europe into some very high-quality, multicountry stocks there. mostly on consumer discretionary stocks as well. >> george, we haven't forgotten you yet. scott, i have a question for you. just noticed today france and germany's stock markets hit 52-week highs. we're still wringing our hands over the debt crisis, and the equity markets are hitting new highs for the year. is it too late to get into those markets? >> i don't think so, bill, at all. all the european markets are up for the year except portugal, which is up slightly. even greece is up year to date. i don't think you're too late on that trade at all. in fact, i think, quite frankly, the structural changes that are happening in europe could produce growth for many years come. >> where are you putting money to work, george? >> the fiscal cliff is sort of the uncertainty du jour. people are always worried about next uncertainty. you need to blow past that and think about where the next good stocks going to be, how can i invest, how can i participate? taxes are likely to go up, but this is a lot of rattling. both sides of the aisle would come together. they'll figure out what's best. at the end of the day, they know they have to help the little guy, the consumer. pool corp. sells everything but the water. they're suppliers for the pool industry. we think they'll grow at 18%. they have very little debt. it's like an annuity. all the pools in this country are seven years old. we love that kind of stock. >> bill, i take issue with the idea this is just saber rattling. if dividends triples, that's going to have a meaningful change in the way people allocate capital going forward. we're already seeing it with special dividends this year. this is a significant change. >> this is not necessarily just, you know, the upset du jour. this can change the economic landscape in 2013 and beyond. >> that's not going to happen. >> what if we wake up on january 2nd, we go over the cliff -- >> why do you say it's not going to happen? >> human nature is to focus on all the worst possibilities. call me an optimist, but i think things are going to get better. the economy is strong. it's going to get stronger. >> what evidence do you have these guys are not just going to go over the fiscal cliff? we heard tim geithner on this program yesterday when steve asked him, look f you don't get what you want, do we go over the fiscal cliff? he said absolutely. >> he said he would do it! >> what happens when we wake up january nd, we go over the cliff, and the world doesn't end? >> that is so irresponsible. >> you have to be a long-term investor. long-term stocks have outperformed bonds. >> with all do respect, george, are you one of those come play september investors larry is referring to? >> i'd say we're opposite of that. we never take anything for granted, but we bet accordingac. bonds are trouble. a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money in bonds. you have to be prepared for that. interest rates are going to go up. dividends are going to continue to increase. the economy in this country is strong. it's going to get stronger. >> even at 44% dividend tax? >> it's not going to go that high. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, it does go that high. it goes to 44%. >> no, no. don't think the worst. >> less than a month, it goes there. >> i want to think like an optimist, but i'm not going to put rose-colored glasses on. i see what's going on. >> there's no safe haven for capital or capitalists. you have to take some chances. >> my question here is what happens if january 2nd comes, we go over the fiscal cliff, and the world doesn't end and we kind of just get acclimated to this whole thing of just going forward with these higher tax rates? what do you do then if you get stuck in some of these positions? i'm looking at a couple other numbers. cash, $2.6 trillion. i saw before i came out here that corporate bond issuance went over. i think there are a lot of ramifications. i think just to dismiss this is really inviting trouble. >> think about all the corporate bond issuers out there. they're taking a window of opportunity because that window is going to close. they're running for the hills had to make sure they get all the bonds issued they can. >> if we go over the cliff, the cbo says we're going to be in severe recession. that's not business as usual. >> it's a contrarian fact that when people hate stocks this much, that's probably the time you want to own them. fiscal cliff or not. >> all right. i'm also looking at fundamental indicators too. if we go into recession, i think that's priced into this market. we'll be watching, gentlemen. thank you very much. we appreciate it. we have 50 minutes before the closing bell sounds for the day. a market that's up just about 11 points on the dow industrials. >>> very revealing interview. apple ceo tim cook talking about steve jobs' words of wisdom for running his company. listen to this. >> he told me on a couple of occasions before he passed away to never question what he would have done. never ask the question what steve would do to just do what's right. >> up next, we're going to find out if apple would be in better shape if mr. cook started asking, what would steve do? we'll get to that coming up. >>> then i'll talk exclusively with the ceo of fedex. fred smith is with me on how the shipping giant is bracing for a possible fall off the fiscal cliff. >>> it's all later on "the closing bell." stay tuned. >>> welcome back. take a look at apple here bouncing back today, almost up 1% after that big decline yesterday. that was the single biggest loss in four years. the stock is still down better than 20% from the highs, putting a lot of scrutiny on this company right now. >> in his first interview since taking over apple, ceo tim cook spoke exclusively with nbc's brian williams. here's a part of that interview. listen. >> how are you not steve jobs? >> in many way, one of the things he did for me that removed a gigantic burden that would have normally existed is he told me on a couple of occasions before he passed away to never question what he would have done. never ask the question what would steve do, just do what's right. >> but given the recent slide in the stock and missteps like google maps, should cook start asking is what would steve jobs have done? max wolf of green crest capital says tim cook could help himself by channelling more jobs. nicolas carlson makes the cay that in some ways tim cook is even better than steve jobs. i think we have a disagreement going here. max, you first. why can't we just allow apple to change and become tim cook's company? >> i think it has become tim's. that transition occurred prior to the passing away of steve jobs. i think it's healthy. i think he should stand on the shoulders. everybody in the tech world has something to learn from jobs. i think standing on the shoulders of steve jobs is great idea. i think wearing a dead man's pants to work is creepy and a terrible idea. he has to be different. he can't try to clone apple. after all, what makes apple different from all the people who want to be apple is it does its own thing. mr. cook has to follow in that great tradition. >> mnicolas, how does he do tha? what kind of business experience does tim cook bring that perhaps steve jobs didn't? >> first of all, tim cook has done a lot of things that make apple a more human company, which is important for the brand in the long run. there's been a lot of mess with foxconn in china. he's paid apple retail employees more money. that's good for apple and the economy. finally, he talked today about bringing over more manufacturing of macintosh computers in the united states. that's good for everybody. >> i think people will take issue saying tim cook is better than steve jobs, nick, don't you think? >> it's certainly hard to say anybody is better than steve jobs. that's not really an option, whether or not steve jobs continued to be the ceo of apple. i think tim cook has done a good job. for him to try to be steve jobs, to try to be a product visionary would be a big mistake. his real skill is optimizing supply chains and running apple's massive operations. he's done a good job of really focusing in on who can be the next steve jobs. that's johnny ive. he's the person who designed all the hardware at apple. now he's in charge of the way everything looks and feels. after steve jobs, there's a natural fight between who's going to become that next person. you have to give tim cook credit for going with johnny ive. >> at the end of the day, people want to know, is the innovation alive and well at apple? are they going to continue to come out with these products that the world wants to sfwhie max, what do you think? >> there's a possibility. they only do the big innovation. steve jobs had many and huge failures. he's not remembered for those. he's remembered for the successes. you don't get the successes unless you take the big chances. lately, we've seen them do a lot of what wall street wants vis-a-vis margins but a lot less of risk taking. they have to do that to keep being the apple that commands the premium on the price of all their goods that they've historically had and that ironically the markets rely on them to have in order to get themselves to price forecast for the share prices above $600. >> they're still trying big, new, exciting things. over the summer, we saw patent filings for things similar to google glass. they're working on these things. the difference between apple and google is they're not public about it. we don't know what they're working on other than these p patent filings. trust me, they're working on big, new, exciting things. even wearable computers. >> let's hope. we haven't seen them though. maybe. >> it just occurred to me, we talk about tim cook versus steve jobs and is the company different and how is it different and all that. is it possible, max, that shareholders think they are still investing in steve jobs' apple rather than tim cook's apple? >> absolutely. >> is that why we've seen this 23% decline in the stock recently as some of that is starting to dawn on them? >> absolutely. i'll do you one better. it's a great question. i think analysts still think they're forecasting and following steve jobs' growth. the bad news is that it's the wrong model. that era has ended. there's lots of exciting things to do. the story is not over. the future is potentially very bright. folks need to move away from maintaining the margin and benchmark everything against steve jobs. the margin is not defensible. >> it's snot just steve though. it's the talent steve attracted and whether or not thatt atalen is leaving or if it's still there. what are you shaking your head about? >> i think johnny ive is certainly as much of a talent magnet as steve jobs. this person has an aura about him. i think a lot of people at apple and surrounding apple are very exciting when tim cook did a good job of selecting johnny ive instead of scott forestall. you hear reports of people applauding that johnny is the man now. he's going to run the design over there. it's big news. >> all right. we'll leave it there. >> scott wasn't so popular either, which was part of the reason for the applause. >> guys, thanks. appreciate it. catch the full interview with apple ceo tim cook tonight 10:00 p.m. eastern on nbc's "rock center." >> looking forward to that. >>> as we head toward the close with about 40 minutes left on the trading session, losing altitude here. >> how about zynga? 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[ yawning sound ] >>> welcome back. check out zynga. the shareholders getting good news today after a tough year. the stock rallying after the company filed for gaming license in nevada. julia boorstin with the story on this big bet. over to you. >> investors are clearly relieved to see zynga is trying to make money from online gambling. getting a game license in nevada is a key first step. but a much bigger hurdle is the fact that online gambling is illegal in the u.s. zynga could be sitting on a gold mine if even a few percent of its monthly poker players gamble. even if online gambling does become legal, all the big casino owners would pose some very steep competition. bill and maria. >> indeed. julia, thank you. despite today's gains, shares of zynga still plummeting this year, losing some 70%. does this news change the outlook? let's start talking numbers on zynga today. on the technical side, mark newton with grey wolf execution partners. on the fundamental side, paul hickey. does this make you want to buy the stock? >> not really. the biggest hang-up is the valuati valuation. for growth stocks in general, when a valuation isn't always a hang-up, but the problem with zynga is by most metrics, its growth is either slowing or declining. it doesn't seem to justify that high valuation. >> all right. mark, let's look at the chart. what does it tell you? what about this button-hook rise? >> technically, bill, the stock it starting to look better to me here, actually. if you look over the last nine months, the stock has dropped over 86% from the highs back in march. now this recent down trend has given way to more consolidation over the last few months. if anything, the recent trend is starting to resemble what a lot of technicians would call reverse head and shoulders pattern. a close here would represent new ten-week closing highs. my thinking is the stock can move higher, take out november highs and get up to 330. that would be almost a 29% rise from current levels. >> the stock does seem to be rounding out a bottom, but the big hang-up is the pop today on volume. we saw a similar move back in january when the stock jumped about 15% when the company said they were going to explore looking into online gambling. investors who bought in on that news, which is a similar type of news as today, have lost 75% while they waited. i'd like to see more confirmation in the charts and on the fundamental front before we got very attracted to zynga. >> well, look, the stock has come back from 16 down to $2. if you've ridden this stock down, it looks like you've been dealt a bad hand. just recently with the technical improvement improvements, my thinking is it looks like the board is filling up. you certainly don't want to fold here. my thinking is the stock can move higher. >> nothing to say to that, paul? >> yeah, i mean -- >> has he beaten you? do we give the victory to mark? >> if you've been holding it from ten to two, what's the point in selling it? >> i've said it before, i'll say it again, you can't break your arm falling out of a one-story window. >> and the one thing in zynga's favor, maybe, is the one that have been holding up the best as far as their growth is the online poker segment. that's seen the slowest deceleration in users. you know, that could be something for it. it's a stock that we'd stay away from still. >> all right. very good. thank you, both, for your thoughts today on zynga. see you later. maria. >> 30 minutes before the closing bell sounds for the day. the market is fractionally better on the session. the dow jones industrial average up 13 points here. up next, we're talking potential fallout from the the fiscal cliff with the head of economic bell weather fedex. fred smith will join me straight ahead. we'll get into that and a lot more. stay with us. >>> later, the ceo of the company that owns luxury brand gucci is warning sales could fall off if we don't get the fiscal cliff in order. hear from him later. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with schwab mobile, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can focus on trading anyplace, anytime. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 until i choose to focus on something else. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all this with no trade minimums. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and only $8.95 a trade. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 open an account with a $50,000 deposit, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and get 6 months commission-free trades. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 call 1-866-294-5412. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! 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[ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> we are now just 25 days and counting away from the fiscal cliff, but are we any closer to a deal than we were yesterday? eamon javers is in washington making a career out of this story. he's got the latest on the negotiations. >> hi, bill. the battle for public perception here in the fiscal cliff fight continues today. the president visiting a middle class family in northern virginia who he said would be hurt by tax increases if those come to pass at the end of this year. the president saying that republicans simply need to come to terms and a deal with him. take a listen to what the president had to say out in the living room of this family in northern virginia. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> so, bill, the president using the power of the bully pulpit there and image making. it's the power the president has to shift the debate here. republicans don't seem to have caved in just yet. we're going to have to see whether or not there's a deal. i think the most encouraging sign for those people who want to see a deal is that the president and the speaker of the house had a phone call yesterday, and the contents of that phone call haven't leaked out yet. that's a sign that there's a genuine negotiation going on and offers are not being rejected out of hand. last week we saw a lot of leaking after proposals. this week, not so much. maybe there's something behind the scenes. >> you have a quizzical look on your face. >> i was listening to the president. was he referring to the debt ceiling there, eamon, when he said, i'm not going to allow higher rates for the -- >> what the president is saying is what he's been saying all along. the deal is going to have to include higher rates. he will not sign anything that doesn't include higher rates on the wealthy. >> that's what i thought he said. >> he's using the backdrop of the middle class family to make his point. the republicans, in his view, are holding the middle class, these people, hostage in favor of the rich. that's a point the white house wants to hammer home. that's why you see the effort o find a visible backdrop to do that. >> and harry reid named a number today. 38.5%. >> they talk about the clinton tax rates and say how good the economy was under the clinton years, but it's not entirely clear that raising taxes is going to create a great economy this time around. >> thank you so much. we go from party line to the front lines on the impact of the fiscal cliff's mess. fedex ceo fred smith was among the ceos who met with the president yesterday. he's been outspoken on the issue of corporate taxes as well as jobs, making headlines saying it's a myth that raising tax rates will kill jobs. let's talk with fred smith right now in a cnbc exclusive about that and more. frank, good to have you on the program. welcome back. >> thank you very much, maria. always good to be here. >> good to see you again. let's start with the fiscal cliff issue. when it comes to higher taxes, you seem to disagree with house speaker boehner when he says raising taxes on the highest earners will hurt jobs. can you elaborate on that? >> i think what the speaker is saying quite correctly is you don't want to increase taxes on the job creators. the problem here is the 1986 act that equalized corporate and personal rates. so the most important thing is to have an internationally competitive corporate rate of 25% and a territorial tax system and then individuals who have been filing their businesses as s-corporations or pass-through corporations can incorporate and get that lower rate. they can negotiate on the individual rates. >> so you don't think the ordinary income, then, the 39.6% that we're talking about, in that case, would apply to small business. they would fall under the corporate tax rate. >> yes, exactly. people forget that until 1986, corporate and individual rates were separate. a big part of the '86 act was to equalize them. there's a big difference between 2012 and 1986. only 17% of our economy was related to trade in '86. last year in 2011 it was 32%. so we're now the highest corporate tax rate of any industrialized country in the world, and only chile has a worldwide corporate tax system like we do rather than a territorial system. >> so you're really talking about the corporate rate having the big influence here. you know, a lot of talk recently on wall street and from the investor community that the dividend tax, the capital gains tax is also going to be quite impactful in terms of money moving throughout the kpi. what's your take on that? >> well, i completely agree with it. i mean, if i were the czar and could wave a magic wand based on my experience, capital gains taxes would be, say, 25%. they would go to zero at the end of five years and apply to every investor, whether it was a tax-free pension funds and it would stop a lot of this speculation and churning of stock. and dividends, people forget, are already taxed at 35% at the corporate rate before your return of capital represented by dividend is taxed at 15%. and as of january the 1st, an additional 3.8% to fund the new affordable patient act or so-called obamacare. >> all right. so what's important to you in terms of the impact on business and the economy, then, are corporate rates and investment related rates. not necessarily ordinary income tax. you make very good points there. let's talk about job creation. you've said that jobs in the u.s. are produced by capital investments and equipment in software, not those marginal tax rates. is that the argument? is that why you feel that those are so important in terms of changing the tax code? >> sure. i gave a speech today at the economic club. i put up a chart that shows the relationship of private investment and equipment in software. it looks like railroad tracks. residential investment and government infrastructure, which is way down from historical levels, and business structures investment, that's important, but the locomotive that pulls our economy is investment in equipment and software. whether it's for an oil cater in the basis or a high-tech start-up buying servers and routers and things of that nature. it's our reduced level of capital investment that's produced our low gdp growth rates and our high unemployment. and high tax rates at the corporate level worldwide are directly related to high unemployment levels. you've got to stimulate investment in the united states and a lower corporate tax rate and a so-called territorial system where you don't tax profits made, say, from selling disposable diapers in china to chinese citizens. has to pay a tax to come back in the united states. >> let me get your take, fred. everything you say makes a lot of sense. yet, here we are on the edge of this fiscal cliff. we're not sure what will happen. many people predicting we'll go over the cliff. if we go over the cliff and the automatic spending cuts take effect and the tax increases take effect, what do you think happens to the economy? >> well, at the brt meeting that you mentioned, where the president was nice enough to come over, the question was asked, if we go over the fiscal cliff, how many businesses in this room will reduce capital investment? remember, i just said -- and it's very demonstrable that capital investment is what drives gdp growth rate and job creation. that tells a story right there. if we go across the fiscal cliff, we will have an economic contraction or slow down at best. >> how are things looking right now ahead of the holidays? i'm sure your company is real busy, fedexing gifts. what are your expectations for this holiday season? >> well, you know, the 300,000 wonderful teammates of fedex are working very hard. we publicly forecast a couple weeks ago that on the 10th we would move 19 million shipments through our network. that's up about 11% year over year. e-commerce is causing a significant amount of growth. retail sales are going to be up some place in the 3.5% and 4%. we think absent going over the cliff and absent tax reform, u.s. gdp around 2% next year. worldwide, about 2.5%. >> real quick, we have to ask you your plans. you had said at some point you would leave the ceo role as soon as 2013. is that still in the cards? what's the succession plan? >> well, we have a strong team at fedex that manages the company. the strategic management committee of nine people. lots of people that can do my job without missing a beat. i don't have any plans to go any place in 2013. we're having a good time. if i were incapacitated, we'd probably upgrade the ceo with a strong executives that we have at fedex. >> so you're planning to stay right there? >> at least for a while. >> good for you. fred, good to talk with you. we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> shareholders will be pleased with that answer. see you soon, fred. >> thank you. >> the market is rallying while you guys are talking. >> 32 points higher. >> interestingly, the day before we get the jobs number. also, one of wall street's top strategists will be joining us with his 2013 market outlook. he's bullish on three specific sectors. we'll name name when is we come back. >> how about the fact that a third of americans believe now is a good time to invest. do people with money in the market agree with that sentiment? 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Dec 8, 2012 6:30am PST
over the fiscal cliff doesn't mean your taxes go up, it means programs and services that touch virtually every aspect of american life are downsized. good morning, everyone. i'm kristine romans. america can't afford itself. a long-term debt and deficit problems, and these are the folks who have to fix it. how close are they? >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> we can't sit here and try to figure out what works for them. >> we look forward to the time when they are specific. >> they need to be more specific. >> they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> we've not had any discussion and specifics with this president about the real problem. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> i will not play that game. >> further apart than ever. you've heard endless arguing about higher taxes on the rich. let's set that aside and talk about the sequester the budget wonk word for a thing that will touch every american. $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts over the next decade, 100 billion next year alone, half
FOX News
Dec 7, 2012 3:00pm PST
fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, there is no progression to report. report. >> reporter: he blasted for not offering a counterproposal to his plan and they seemed more than ever going to stop the tax increase. economy shrugged off hurricane sandy to create 146,000 new jobs, nearly double what forecasters had said, job creation for september and october was revised downward by a total of 49,000. another 350,000 people were so discouraged in november they simply stopped looking for work and left the labor force, which is why the unemployment rate dipped to 7.7%. >> raising taxes on small businesses is not going to help our economy and it's not going to help those seeking work. i came out the day after the elec
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Dec 4, 2012 4:30pm PST
governors met with president obama today about what they need to see in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal. the group's leader joins us, maya macguinneas. >> tom: and luxury fashion meets the mass market. who wins with target's pairing with neiman marcus? >> susie: that and more tonight on nbr! >> tom: there wasn't much obvious ground given today between president obama and congressional republicans in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff in january. president obama repeated his pledge he's open to new ideas, but is holding firm on his call for higher taxes on top income earners, something missing from the g.o.p. plan. with just three weeks left, the two sides are still at odds with their opening offers. th time ticking away to reach a deal before tax cuts expire and spending cuts hit, president obama today said he's still optimistic a deal will be done and he's willing to compromise, but negotiations just aren't there yet. >> it'
FOX News
Dec 2, 2012 7:00am PST
less than a month before the so-called fiscal cliff and house speaker boehner said congressional republicans are "nowhere in talks with the white house." they are trying. good morning. i'm jamie colby. great to have you here. welcome to america's news headquarters. >> eric: i'm eric shawn. good morning. in an exclusive interview with "fox news sunday," speaker boehner says negotiations are at a standstill. this is as treasury secretary tim geithner says the president is ready for what he calls difficult concessions. mr. boehner says he was flabbergasted at the white house stance on what they say needs to be done. peter doocy has details this morning on the latest developments from washington. good morning, peter. >> good morning, eric. spieger boehner said negotiations are nowhere, period and he called treasury secretary tim geithner's presentation of the white house proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff earlier in week "nonserious." >> i was flabbergasted. i lookedded a him like you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. you know we have seven weeks between electi
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 4:00pm EST
. more on the anticipation of the fiscal cliff, the ceo of a major insurance company on what the fiscal cliff means to his industry right now as the second hour of "the closing bell" gets under way with maria bartiromo. see you tomorrow. >>> and it is 4:00 on wall street. do you know where your money is? hi, everybody. welcome back to "the closing bell." i'm maria bartiromo on the floor of the new york stock exchange. this market not able to get anything going today as the fiscal cliff fears continue to hang over us. as you see, we turned negative right at 4:00. in fact, we're looking at a decline of about 13 points right her here. the nasdaq composite also under pressure to the tune of five. the s&p 500 down about two points on the session. i want to take a closer look at what moved the markets as we await any decisions out of washington. joining us right now, keith springer, abbigail doolittle, and our own bob posani. keith, let me get your take on the cliff here and on what's to happen in terms of the markets. do you expect the economy to go over the fiscal cliff? what kind of
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 4:00pm EST
think the next six months are going to be very tricky. i think the fiscal cliff uncertainty is going to continue t actually. so i'm a little more bearish in the near term. then i think it's a sell-off, if there is one, that should be bought aggressively for a rally in the end of 2013 that would be the beginning of a new bull market. >> when you say a rally towards the end of next year, do you think over the course of 2013 it's going to end higher? we're going to be higher than where we are right now? >> yeah, i mean, i think ultimately 2013 ends up higher at the end. i think we're going to go -- we're going to test some lower resistance in the first six, seven months of the year. we have so much uncertainty in washington. we do have slowing economies in europe and in the u.s. >> right. david, what do you say right now? break the tie for us. >> break the tie. in the near term, there's an epic tug of war between extremely aggressive monetary easing and just total disdain for what they're doing in washington on tax and regulatory policy. in the near term, the fiscal cliff prevails
CNBC
Dec 2, 2012 7:30pm EST
>>> hi, everybody. welcome to the "wall street journal report." i'm maria bartiromo. fiscal cliff or fiscal mole hill? worse than we thought or nothing to worry about? two strategists with different opinions. and why what happens in washington may not matter that much. >>> and decisions, decisions at year-end tax time. we'll have important advice. >>> and he went from living on the street to living in the lap of luxury. john paul dejoria's remarkable ride. you went from homeless to a billionaire. the "wall street journal report" begins right now. >> here's a look at what is making news as we head to a new week on wall street. in washington, posturing politics and high-stakes poker with america's economy at stake. president obama's initial offer on the fiscal cliff was resoundingly rejected by republicans. it included a $1.6 trillion tax increase, double what he campaigned on. also included $400 billion in entitlement cuts eliminating the need for congressional approval to a raise the debt ceiling. the markets rebounded later in the week following the latest hopes on a fiscal cliff ag
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 4:00pm EST
. >> thanks peter. always good to see you. again our two fiscal cliff portfolios for the first time since the election of november 6th, they are betting we will not go over the fiscal cliff interestingly enough. right now the dow up just 15 points as we head towards the close. much more to come on the second hour of "closing bell." >>> and it's that time of day. it's 4:00 p.m. here on wall street. maria will be back in the seat tomorrow. as the clock winds down to the fiscal cliff deadline, this is how we're finishing on wall street. at this stage it looks like we got a gain of only 14 points for the dow. obviously we were higher than that, not much more but were higher earlier in the day. the nasdaq up by only eight points and the s&p finishing up by just a trickle of positive. well, ticktock. the market is closed. seems to be waiting once again for some clear signal on what's going to happen with regards to the fiscal cliff. how can you make money in the final trading sessions of the year amongst all this uncertainty? >> we have definite answers coming with our panel. back with us
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Dec 6, 2012 5:00am EST
obama administration is ready to go over the so-called fiscal cliff if taxes are not raised. >> the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no prospects in agreement that doesn't involve the raise going up on the top 2 percent. >> house speaker bane another a boehner and president obama have been talking by phone. not much progress was made. boehner says if he doesn't agree with the propose sal he has obligation to submit one of his own. >> the missing girl battling leukemia is safe and is being treated in new mexico. she was taken out of a hospital in phoenix. her mother took her. doctors are worried she could potentially get a deadly infection. the girl's father claims the hospital was to blame for a different infection which cost emily her right arm. he's refusing to tell police where she is in mexico. both parents could face criminal charges. >> shock, disgust and fear spread quickly on the campus of the university of -- one details the exact moment they realty lied they were in a major crisis. it reads subject emergency the shooter at the au
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 11:00pm EST
on vacation without the notion. the fiscal cliff glasgows from being half full to half empty that's where we want it, and once it's half empty, it's much more immune to disappointment. that's because those hoping for a deal will be gone. checked out, sold. replaced by three types of strongholders. get this. first like when the debt ceiling was raised. a move that countered for a huge chunk of the markets. these people believe that some kind of deal is inevitable. they think selling now is tantamount to giving up the bottom. the second set. they feel it won't have much of an impact on the economy. they believe we won't go into recession and the whole thing is over, done. mellow drama even. they think fearmongers. and this is their group of strong holders. a little time passes, they think, hey, should be better off going over the cliff. rich will pay more of their fair shares and higher taxes on dividends. government spending sliced where it should be and and the bloated defense budget. unnecessary social programs. me? i think we aren't where we need to be yet when the it comes to aba
ABC
Dec 9, 2012 11:35pm EST
- called fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner met today. >> they said the lines of communication remain open. this comes after the head of the international my terry fund got tough on at the sunday talk shows. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> a quick fix is not the answer for resolving the fiscal crisis, said the director of the international monetary fund. a more comprehensive solution is needed. christine the guard says any deal between president obama and congressional republicans must do more than simply avoid the fiscal cliff to get america pause economy growing again. >> there is still the degree of uncertainty. investors, entrepreneurs households, are not making decisions because they do not know what tomorrow will be. >> but washington's top republican leader, house speaker john boehner, complains there has been no progress in avoiding even immediate crisis. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff disrupting our economy and threaten jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats shona signs of backing of
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm EST
progress, but a bit of promise tonight in our fiscal cliff notes. today president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone about the looming budget cuts, but as of now, no evidence there's any future negotiations scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1st for those earning more than $250,000 a year, but extending them for everybody else. just 32% say the cuts ought to be extended across the board. joining us now to talk fiscal cliff and ramifications for all of us around here in the d.c. area, virginia congress member gerry connolly, a democrat representing annandale, parts of prince herndon county, fairfax, welcome, sir. we know the arguments by now, very familiar. the president wants to cut off the tax cuts for everybody making over a quarter million. john boehner and the house republicans would rather see deductions and hoop holes closed. why are you? are you with the president wholeheartedly on this? >> well, i certainly agree with the president that we need to let the top tax bracket expire
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm EST
way on hopes of a compromise on the fiscal cliff stalemate in washington. eamon javers standing by in a moment with information on a bipartisan letter from lawmakers that's. putting tax hikes and entitlement cuts firmly on the table. >> i'm bill griffeth. let's show you, and the charts tell the day's story, as it usually does. can you get when the president began speaking at business round table and we learned that at least 40 house republicans are breaking ranks to talk about anything, all possibilities as they said in an open letter. right now the dow is up 110, near the highs of the day. 13,062.59. the nasdaq is going the other direction. blame apple and overall technology having a tough day. down 13 points right now on the nasdaq at 2982. the s&p is holding with a gain of about five points. we'll have more on the markets in a moment. first, let's get to what's going on in washington. more republicans breaking ranks to join what we hope will be a bipartisan call for higher tax rates and entitlement cuts. eamon javers on capitol hill has the very latest details for us. eamon. >> rep
FOX Business
Dec 9, 2012 4:00am EST
, everybody. i'm gerri willis. tonight no progress on the fiscal cliff as democrats and republicans trade barbs over the issu. one group of americans is finding a way through this regardless of congress and the president. small-business owners in this countryare prepari to hire. join me now, chief .s. economist for i may just pull one side. heart of america group founder, and member of the jobs creation alliance and actual job creators in this country who say their voices not being heard in this office took with debate. also with us from the weekly standard, steven haze. welcome. great to have you here. i want to start with the conversation in washington and what the speaker had to say about the status of the fiscal here is mr. boehner. >> this is in the progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i th
CNN
Dec 9, 2012 9:00am PST
union with candy crowley is right now. >>> to recap the past week of activity atop the fiscal cliff, nothing happened. today the search for a sweet spot between the deal the speaker can get from the president and the one he can sell to his bruised party. >> they have put forward an unbalanced plan that actually lowers rates for the wealthiest americans. >> when is he going to take a step towards us? >> republican house speakers tom cole and marsha blackburn. >>> then falling off the fiscal cliff, a tumble that would shake the world with international monetary fund christine lagarde. >>> plus what happens if nothing happens with moody's chief economist mark zandy, jackie comes of the "new york times" and cnn's dana bash. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." >>> politically the speaker is playing with a weaker hand that the president, the pressure is higher on him and his critics are harder too. >> the republican party's finished. >> he is selling out our children right now with these massive tax increases and that's a starting bid. he's saying here $800 billion now will you sit
CNN
Dec 9, 2012 12:00pm EST
about for years. the fiscal cliff is a name that the media came up with, but some of us have been saying for years, you have got to stop the out of control federal spending or you're going to end up at this point, we're there. >> congress mon cole, i just want to remind folks of something that you have said about the middle class tax cuts and letting them go on and also your reply to that. i just want to play that to get our viewers up to speed. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. >> he has his idea, i don't want to raise taxes on anybody. >> is the split i think inside to the republican caucus? >> i think it's more of a discussion on tactics. none of us want to raise the rates on anybody, but the reality is, the rates go up on everybody at the end of the months. to me, i would get that off the table now, so they don't worry about it. i think those people are actually the president's leverage in these debate. it's the democrats going around screaming your taxes are go
PBS
Dec 7, 2012 6:30pm PST
another week in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: the job market is proving to be surprisingly resilient. american employers hired 146,000 workers in november, much more than expected. and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%, the lowest level since december of 2008. as erika miller reports, that wasn't the only surprise in today's report. >> reporter: almost no one on wall street saw this good news coming. there was every reason to think hiring would be weak last month. after all, many parts of the east coast are still recovering from devastation caused by superstorm sandy. >> i think the most likely explanation here is sandy's impact was significant but was so short-lived that it didn't extend to the sample period of the employment report which was the week that covered november 12. >> reporter: hiring was also supposed to be weak due to worries about the fiscal cliff. with $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and government spending cuts set to start next year, why aren't more firms postponing hiring decisions? >> what we're hearing
WETA
Dec 6, 2012 6:30pm EST
nice numbers. this supposedly is fiscal cliff related selling as shareholders worries that capital gains tax rates will be higher next year. >> still, financial planner sharon appleman says selling stock solely for tax reasons isn't the best idea. >> i definitely think it's a legitimate concern and can be an opportunity. and i would say if somebody was interested in reducing a physician any-- position anyway, that can certainly be a great time to do it, you know, why pay higher taxes in a few months time when you can pay a lower tax now. >> reporter: and some analysts say, before unloading the shares, consider that fundamentals for apple haven't really changed. sure, revenue growth may slow and margins may contract, and there are worries the tech giant will have trouble fending off competition from increasingly popular android products. but, to some analysts, the shares look especially cheap today, especially considering their move south since the september high. >> we think the smart phone trend is still in the early to middle innings and is not in the late innings yet. so we thin
FOX Business
Dec 10, 2012 4:00pm EST
counting down the hours the fiscal cliff deadline, we have somebody who says this isn't the real fiscal cliff at december 31 isn't the real deadline to watch. we will tell you what it isn't how you might want to play it. david: how do i go flyfishing with paul volcker? or maybe lunch with business titans. how you can do those experiences with some of the top minds. liz: what drove the market with the "data download." david: if it is in ontana, i would take it. liz: stocks pushed into the green with all the major indices pushing into the green. longest winning streak in nearly two months. potatoes and industrials were the top perffrming sectors while they could not quite get it. oil for the fifth day in a row slip into a three-week low on concern over the italian prime minister resignation soon and the impact on europe's debt crisis. crude and in the day down $0.37 $85.56 per barrel. gasoline has come down $0.10 over the past few weeks. korn falling to a three-week low so far i'm growing demand overseas for supplies from the u.s. soybeans also dropping on slowing demand. david: peter ken
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Dec 9, 2012 12:00pm PST
week, president obama's offer to avoid the fiscal cliff was laughed at by republicans. this week, the gop countererred. extend the bush tax cuts to everyone, including the rich. revenue, cost savings, cutting, whatever you want to call it from vague areas such as closing, special interest loopholes and deductions, savings from health care and cuts in discretionary spending. other than that, no specifics. president obama wasn't feeling it. he said the gop must agree to one thing to get anywhere close do a deal. >>. >> wee going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner fired back. >> this week, we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> so, here we are, just over three weeks from going over the fiscal cliff. you're probably getting a lot of stuff around the house this weekend wondering what the heck is going on in these houses in washington. this is the worst of american politics. they put themse
FOX News
Dec 6, 2012 3:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff. what the president does not want to talk about. plus senator jim demint is here to tell you why he is leighing the senate. this is "special report." this is "special report." ♪ ♪ good evening >> good evening. i'm bret baier. much of the public debate focuses on taxes. democrat want to raise them on high earners. republicans don't. but there is another part of the equation that gets less attention. that is spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. that is good for the america
PBS
Dec 3, 2012 4:30pm PST
."! after a weekend of trading accusations over the lack of progress on avoiding the fiscal cliff, both sides now have put their opening offers on the table. last week, it was treasury secretary timothy geithner meeting with top republicans. this afternoon, house speaker john boehner sketched out the g.o.p. proposal in a letter to the white house, and the proposal borrows suggestions from the president's own debt reduction commission, whose plan was ignored last year. the republican letter offered $900 billion in spending cuts from program reforms to medicare and social security. the g.o.p. plan would raise $800 billion in revenues by closing loop-holes and reforming the tax code, but stops short of specifics. noticeably missing: the higher taxes on high-wage earners which president obama has insisted on. the white house responded, saying "the g.o.p. proposal does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill." it's not just the federal government under pressure. credit ratings agency fitch calls the
PBS
Dec 5, 2012 4:30pm PST
republicans are holding the global economy hostage over the fiscal cliff. >> susie: and apple shares get of the most widely owned stocks sees heavy trading. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r." >> susie: big job cuts today at one of the nation's biggest banks. citigroup announced it's slashing 4% of its staff; that works out to 11,000 jobs worldwide. the cuts will save the bank more than $1 billion a year in expenses. but they won't be cheap, resulting in a billion-dollar charge against fourth-quarter earnings. is this gloomy news from citi the beginning of other companies doing the same? suzanne pratt reports. >> reporter: 11,000 jobs are a lot of layoffs, even for a bank as huge as citi. and there could be more. that's because the monster firm is still struggling to recover from the great recession even though it has fired a lot of other workers in the last few years. the thing is, citi has a new c.e.o. in michael corbat, and experts say he's anxious to make his mark, even if that includes cutting staff. and the need to slim down is not ique to citi; it's indtry- wide. a finan
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Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm PST
." >> susie: we turn tonight to other opinions on the fiscal cliff impasse. we talk with the chairman of the national governor's association, and we also hear from a leading advocate for responsible fiscal policy. we begin with governor jack markell, the democrat from delaware. he was one of six governors meeting with president obama today to talk about how the fiscal cliff impacts their states. i asked him what was his message to the president. >> our message was pretty straightforward. we believe that it is important that governors have a seat at the table as the president and leaders in congress are negotiating issues around the fiscal cliff. we think it is really important that they get something done because, obviously, if tax rates go up on middle-class americans come next month, it will be bad for those middle-class americans, it is will be bad for our states, and we're concerned about both the fiscal side and the economic growth side. >> susie: so talk to us a little bit about what kind of deal you would like to see. what were you proposing to the president? >> let's put it th
CNBC
Dec 3, 2012 6:00pm EST
it just doesn't matter, maybe the stock market stays buoyant because the fiscal cliff is not that big of an issue. maybe that's why the averages once again refuse to drop dramatically, the dow falling 60 points. despite the obvious impasse i saw firsthand when i appeared on "meet the press" with david gregory this weekend, i know i've been interpreting the market's relative success through a difficult period. success is defined by no huge hammering like we had securing the debt ceiling crisis. as a sign that either perhaps people didn't understand what awaits them -- no no! >> or that there might be a deal on the horz ton avoid the fiscal cliff, the fact that the republicans put out an offer, like their old offer before the president won re-election, it does feel like the two sides are talking, but they appear to be talking past each other. the clock is ticking in washington. ticking against a dealing. i think the two sides seem to hate each other more than ever. i don't now, it seems like the last 72 hours i was hoping it was going to get better and it seems like it got worse. i
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